![]() ![]() Again, I don't know if this was implemented in game or not yet, but it does give a nice bonus to damage scores on any four weapons of your choosing plus a +1-stat boost on either Strength or Dexterity. I'm not entirely sure if all of those options were put into BGIII since I'm still in the beginning part of the story, but one particular feat that helps is Weapons Master. While they may not be as "effective" in the beginning, there are Feats/Abilities available to increase their effectiveness in combat situations. Honestly, I think whips are quite useful and are the most versatile of all the weapons offered in D&D. You would struggle to replicate Indiana Jones, Zorro or Catwoman under most RPG rulesets (D&D 5e included). They can be useful tools and are certainly colourful weapons for the right character archetype and build, but they tend to be lumped in as weapons which do a bit of damage and can occasionally grapple. Whips have never really been dealt with properly in RPGs to my knowledge. It contained a lot of information and references relevant to D&D 5e. The thread is still accessible over at the Pathfinder forums if anyone is interested in trawling through it. ![]() Okay, which side of the debate I was on might be obvious. slings were not as good as composite longbows so should not be improved. slings ought to see better stats and better effectiveness because, historically, they were favoured over shortbows in terms of range and effectiveness.Ģ. The conclusions were (depending on which side of the fence you sat) ġ. On the Pathfinder forums some years ago (well, over a decade ago, I think), I was involved in a long and not particularly well-mannered discussion about the effectiveness of slings. So yeah Longbows and Crossbows were incredibly effective at close range against pretty basic armor that most had, but definitely not against plate armor and it wasn't unique to Crossbows.Įdit: Same channel, video of Longbow vs a plate breastplate ( again, Longbows were about the same power Crossbows ). Most people wouldn't have that tho and I've seen arrows pierce shields and mail both and go into the arm holding the shield ( at a fairly close range, which again is why they were used at close range ). The reason why they were still effective even tho they couldn't pierce armor was quite simply because if you had thousands of arrows flying at you there was a high likelihood that some would hit a gap in your armor and against Cavalry kill your horse. Which is why the English still used them and they were so feared because of the system the English had in place that essentially forced people to grow up to become Longbowmen. Arrows lose a lot of power the longer they have to travel, so I imagine that a Longbow would still be '' better '' generally speaking because of the higher rate of fire and they weren't as clumsy to use in the middle of a battle. The reason why Crossbows became popularized was mainly because like you said they required less training to use, same with Muskets.īows in the Medieval period in particular weren't used like in Hollywood they were used at a fairly close range. Most Crossbows weren't much stronger than Longbows and also had much smaller projectiles. Very interesting documentary btw, recommend watching it all ^^Ĭrossbows could not pierce armor with ease lol. A sling is a deadly weapon but if you want to kill a grown up men with it before he rushes at you with a javelin then you better be good at it. It got to a point where romans imported their slingers. ![]() You need training to don't kill yourself with it and to aim properly. You compare that to a sling and yeah, it's not easy to use at all. All you needed was a crossbow, a peasant, and a few days of training max. And then BUM, crossbows could pierce armor with ease. Cause you had a guy who since he was 6 learned how to wield a sword and shield, he devoted his entire life to be a guy in shiny armor. Historically when crossbows were becoming more and more popular people seen them as " a weapon without honor". There's a reason we dropped slings for crossbows and crossbows for guns. Regarding the debate " Slings are simpler to use than crossbows" well.they are not indeed. ![]()
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